Healthcare: An Option for an Option

Sooooo….I’m a universal healthcare supporter, but since the idea of healthcare for everyone offends the sensibilities of those who are unequally yoked to rest of us in favorable ways, we may be offered the option for a public option.

HealthcareNow, I think this is a great offer.  Those red states who are offended by everyone even having the option to be healthy may simply vote it down, and they can continue with the status quo–since, as we know, no other plans for fixing our healthcare problems have been offered.  That sucks for the denizens of those states who choose not to carry the option, but a form of democracy prevails nonetheless.  Of course, a huge light will be cast on those states that choose not to carry a public option for healthcare, but I’m sure that republicans and conservatives will be able to explain that.

Those states that vote for the option, well, the option is not forced upon anyone.  The denizens of those states may choose that plan if they fancy it, and they will need to pay premiums as with any other plan–only more affordable.  Now, I don’t know about you, but I would have moved to Canada by now if it wasn’t so damned cold up there, and I would surely move to a state with a public option versus one without.  But that’s just me.  Things like the school system, job availability, cost of living, and healthcare options figure into my cost-benefit analysis with regard to choosing a place to settle.

One of the more brilliant and positive consequence of the option for the public option is that we will all be a little more careful about who we elect to our respective state legislatures now won’t we?  Does California really want an immigrant (Schwarzenegger) involved in deciding whether we get healthcare?  We all know how hated immigrants are lol!

6 thoughts on “Healthcare: An Option for an Option

  1. Those red states who are offended by everyone even having the option to be healthy may simply vote it down, and they can continue with the status quo–since, as we know, no other plans for fixing our healthcare problems have been offered…

    Nope, nadda, no way. Any state official that supports opt out will be hung out to dry in the media. The Obama admin and the dems know this, hence that’s why they offer it. You saw what happened to states not wanting to take the stimulous money. Imagine what will happen with saying no to free health care.

    Don’t insult our intelligence with the “republicans have no plan” ploy. The dems won’t even consider allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines and won’t even talk to the republicans. When’s the last time you heard somebody say OMG my car insurance rates went up, I have to quit driving or my home owners insurance is so high I can’t keep my house. WHY? Because of competition.

    But, in Obama’s world competition is the government. So I can kiss my GREAT health insurance goodbye that I work my ass off for by being creative, innovative, and highly productive… a perk of working for a great company that offers great benefits.

    So, now the government can do what they set out to do. Undercut private insurance so much that it drives them out of business. And I lose my health insurance. So, now we can sit and bitch to each other at the doctor’s office about how we are waiting four months to see a specialist.

    Woo hoo.

  2. Nope, nadda, no way. Any state official that supports opt out will be hung out to dry in the media. The Obama admin and the dems know this, hence that’s why they offer it. You saw what happened to states not wanting to take the stimulous money. Imagine what will happen with saying no to free health care.

    Isn’t this the point? People want the public option. We value healthy lives more than we value a dollar or whatever else conservatives pit against healthcare, so why try to stop what the people actually want?

    Don’t insult our intelligence with the “republicans have no plan” ploy. The dems won’t even consider allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines and won’t even talk to the republicans. When’s the last time you heard somebody say OMG my car insurance rates went up, I have to quit driving or my home owners insurance is so high I can’t keep my house. WHY? Because of competition.

    I’ve heard this plenty of times! I’ve even said these things about car insurance–especially in California. Home owner’s insurance is not as expensive as other insurances, but what does any of this have to do with the VERY expensive healthcare insurance that I am discussing here?

    But, in Obama’s world competition is the government. So I can kiss my GREAT health insurance goodbye that I work my ass off for by being creative, innovative, and highly productive… a perk of working for a great company that offers great benefits.

    I’m not sure why you are assuming that your insurance would disappear if there is yet another healthcare option. What’s wrong with a little more competition? Anyhow, what’s important is that while you have great healthcare through a great job, many others work but are not offered insurance through their employer, and others are offered very poor coverage at high rates. These latter two groups are who the public option is designed to cover.

    • Because the government competes on an unfair playing field. The progressives want free health care run by the government PERIOD. So what do you do? Charge insurance rates so low that the health insurance companies can’t compete and back up the difference with tax dollars. Drive the insurance companies out of business and take over. Then I lose my insurance but we can all slum together in crappy, rationed healthcare. Oh, joy.

      • I certainly have no problem with universal healthcare. I would prefer it. However, this country is built on the idea of operating on an unfair playing field. This is how businesses prosper relative to others. Isn’t that just the American way? Moreover, the rates have not even been set yet, so what are you basing the unfairly low rates on? Right now, the insurance companies have no checks against the constant rate hikes we see. Where’s your concern for that? Finally, inexpensive is not the same thing as cheap or ineffecient. There is a huge body of work describing in detail the many deficiencies and unethical happenings that insurance companies operate with. Universal healthcare has not translated into poor healthcare in countries that have it, so why would we see that here–assuming people don’t purposefully ruin things for political expendiency?

        Nevertheless, as you said earlier, those state officials who would choose to vote against having a public option would be crucified, and really, isn’t that the point? If we, the people, want a public option, why deny us? The politicians are supposed to work for us–not the other way around, right?

        • However, this country is built on the idea of operating on an unfair playing field. This is how businesses prosper relative to others. Isn’t that just the American way?/////

          Yes, it’s called capitalism. If you don’t do squat you don’t get squate and furthermore you don’t deserve squat. That is the American way. It’s perfect. I’m tired of paying for people that sit on there a$$n and contribute zip.

          Moreover, the rates have not even been set yet, so what are you basing the unfairly low rates on?///

          I don’t need to see the rates. Obama said (and it’s on video) while speaking to the SEIU that he wants to see everyone on government controlled healthcare. So undercutting the insurance companies with super low rates backed up by taxpayer dollars is the way that will happen.

          Right now, the insurance companies have no checks against the constant rate hikes we see. Where’s your concern for that?///

          I don’t have a concern. I like my health insurance. It’s stellar. Leave it alone. Concentrate on tort reform, let people buy health insurance from ANY provider anywhere to increase competition and have reforms in place for those that absolutely have no health care options

          Universal healthcare has not translated into poor healthcare in countries that have it, so why would we see that here–assuming people don’t purposefully ruin things for political expendiency?///

          You’re kidding, right? OK. Next time you need major surgery, go get it in Cuba.

          Nevertheless, as you said earlier, those state officials who would choose to vote against having a public option would be crucified, and really, isn’t that the point? If we, the people, want a public option, why deny us?///

          If you’d turn off MSNBC, you’ll find that “we the people” don’t want it.

          • Yes, it’s called capitalism. If you don’t do squat you don’t get squate and furthermore you don’t deserve squat. That is the American way. It’s perfect. I’m tired of paying for people that sit on there a$$n and contribute zip.

            Surely you know, sir, that there is no such thing as a fair playing field within the world of capitalism. Do not confuse capitalism with a meritocracy. There is also no such thing as a meritocracy here in the US. Whether you are fully aware of it or not, the idea that who you know is more important that what you know completely debunks any arguments that people aren’t working hard enough. This is not the Old West, during which, hard work could earn a healthy living. This is a service society, and networks define status. Believe it or not, not everyone has access to high status networks wherein they could find a better job or attend a better school. You may not be aware of it, but you are paying for those who work less diligently than the poor because they have the right connections. Bush was a good example–a legacy student admitted to a school with a GPA that wouldn’t fly for the average citizen. In fact, he proves the rule completely, for after running business after business into the ground, he was eventually awarded stewardship of the United States of America! Now that’s a powerful network.

            I don’t need to see the rates.

            Now, I don’t meant to be offensive here, but I often come across conservatives who blindly disagree with the current administration prior to having any proof to validate their antipathies. Moreover, they are often not interested in discovering any proof–wary that the proof may prove the other side.

            I don’t have a concern. I like my health insurance. It’s stellar.

            For you, sir, this is great! I’m very happy for you, but for the majority of Americans–the “working poor”–this is simply not the case. You must, as a patriot (assuming you claim to be one) consider your fellow citizen, who is more often than not faced with accepting employment that offers no healthcare plan at all or an unaffordable one. What about the millions who fall into this category?

            You’re kidding, right? OK. Next time you need major surgery, go get it in Cuba.

            To this I say, try, I dare you, to convince a Canadian that they should adopt the US system. Try that same argument on a Frenchman, the Swiss, or any other European country that has a form of socialized healthcare.

            If you’d turn off MSNBC, you’ll find that “we the people” don’t want it.

            You, yourself, said that a politician who argues against the option to have a public option in her/his state would be committing political suicide. If this is true, it’s true for a reason, and that reason can only be that a large enough majority of us want the option. We are not concerned with the astronomical salaries insurance company executives rake in. We want healthcare. We want to be able to afford it.

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